peter, the thing is, people really loved pope john paul ii. he really energized people and he was pope for decades. the next pope probably will sit for decades as well. the church had public relations problems. they need a guy, if not dolan, a charismatic guy like him. >> church. the church has had public relations problems and a lot of the people in the left wing and even main stream media have piled on at this juncture of the catholic church. i see as a time for renewal, excitement. not death clouding a new pope. a new pope being chosen out of many wonderful choices, including my dear friend, cardinal dolan. i don't have a vote, but i know a lot of americans are saying, wow, wouldn't that be a wonderful, wonderful thing? >> steve: that really would be. >> he embraces the world. >> steve: he's a great guy. he's been on the show a couple of times. thank you very much. >> good to see you. >> steve: if you can't pass it through congress, just ram it through congress. the president about to use another executive order. details coming up next. and